Comments on: Correspondence received from CSP / Trec regarding ” Proposed presentation of benefits and costs of European Supergrid by Dr Gregor Czisch” http://www.claverton-energy.com/correspondence-received-from-csp-trec-regarding-proposed-presentation-of-benefits-and-costs-of-european-supergrid-by-dr-gregor-czisch.html Elite Energy, Environment & Tranporation Experts Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:20:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: admin http://www.claverton-energy.com/correspondence-received-from-csp-trec-regarding-proposed-presentation-of-benefits-and-costs-of-european-supergrid-by-dr-gregor-czisch.html/comment-page-1#comment-857 admin Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:12:12 +0000 http://www.claverton-energy.com/?p=3221#comment-857 Peter - agree in general, but according to Czisch we have sufficient storage in europe say - we only need to link it up with a supergrid to share out not only the storage by the fact that it is generally windy somewhere. We also have to consider that since all the requred fossil stations have been self evidently built, why not continue to use them during the very lower periods of output even if it is coal? Would disagree with hydrogen as an end use fuel, as it is quite hopeless to store and put into vehicles - ammonia is much better and could be made (yes from hydrogn) and stored locally - then made back into electricity in high efficiency engine driven chp plant. - all proven tech. Thinking about it, you could make spare interseasonal wind energy into hydrogen, then ammonia, (as at Vermork since 1911) and then use it to run exisiting fossil stations....quite easy to store interseasonal ammonia volumes......Vast tanks of ammonia are no more dangerous than vast tanks of petrol (bunceield) or Flixborough (cyclohexane). regards Ps - Peter - was it your cunning plan to have the submereged compressed air / ammonia bladders? ?If so is the file in the Claverton Library? Peter – agree in general, but according to Czisch we have sufficient storage in europe say – we only need to link it up with a supergrid to share out not only the storage by the fact that it is generally windy somewhere.

We also have to consider that since all the requred fossil stations have been self evidently built, why not continue to use them during the very lower periods of output even if it is coal?

Would disagree with hydrogen as an end use fuel, as it is quite hopeless to store and put into vehicles – ammonia is much better and could be made (yes from hydrogn) and stored locally – then made back into electricity in high efficiency engine driven chp plant. – all proven tech.

Thinking about it, you could make spare interseasonal wind energy into hydrogen, then ammonia, (as at Vermork since 1911) and then use it to run exisiting fossil stations….quite easy to store interseasonal ammonia volumes……Vast tanks of ammonia are no more dangerous than vast tanks of petrol (bunceield) or Flixborough (cyclohexane).

regards

Ps – Peter – was it your cunning plan to have the submereged compressed air / ammonia bladders? ?If so is the file in the Claverton Library?

]]> By: Peter Ravine http://www.claverton-energy.com/correspondence-received-from-csp-trec-regarding-proposed-presentation-of-benefits-and-costs-of-european-supergrid-by-dr-gregor-czisch.html/comment-page-1#comment-856 Peter Ravine Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:13:10 +0000 http://www.claverton-energy.com/?p=3221#comment-856 Dave, Developing energy storage capacity, aimed at bridging renewable energy seasonal outputs variation, should be given high priority. That may not be too much of a problem in the USA North East and Canada with the Great Lakes surface level differences, not to mention various options involving hydrogen from renewable energy. Regards, Peter Ravine Dave,
Developing energy storage capacity, aimed at bridging renewable energy seasonal outputs variation, should be given high priority.
That may not be too much of a problem in the USA North East and Canada with the Great Lakes surface level differences, not to mention various options involving hydrogen from renewable energy.
Regards,
Peter Ravine

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